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http://popanime.net/megami/yabb/YaBB.pl Games >> Devil Summoner >> Kuzunoha Raidou vs King Abaddon http://popanime.net/megami/yabb/YaBB.pl?num=1217404047 Message started by Choooo on 07/30/08 at 03:47:27 |
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Title: Kuzunoha Raidou vs King Abaddon Post by Choooo on 07/30/08 at 03:47:27 Release date: October 23, 2008? System: Playstation 2 + Set in the same year that the first Raidou game was + More than two times the number of demons from the first Raidou game, fusion has apparently been improved. + (I'm not sure if this is right or not, but:) A dramatic overhaul and improvement, so much so that this could be called the third Raidou game instead of second. + Much more to do in the game + Can be enjoyed without having played the previous game + Real time battles + Possible to have two demon allies summoned at a time, Raidou can get special moves? + Demon negotiation is back. + New battle system thingy: MAG Scheduling Battle, but I don't really understand what it says. http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b291/ichigofrost/1217404749076.jpg http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b291/ichigofrost/1217404783155.jpg http://imgplace.com/image/view/21b23c6dcb90a4e221b03f1096bf3e84 http://imgplace.com/image/view/6d540444af1cd89944378b86112c1f59 |
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Title: Re: Kuzunoha Raidou vs King Abaddon Post by RMarques on 07/30/08 at 06:26:37 Awesome! Glad Atlus isn't letting the PS2 go down that easly. I hope Atlus US brings it over. :D Quote:
Oh thank God. Finally, Raidou can do more than swing his sword, fire a gun, and use the odd special attack. |
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Title: Re: Kuzunoha Raidou vs King Abaddon Post by 0kami7777 on 07/30/08 at 12:15:37 *sigh* I was hoping it wouldn't be another Raidou rehash. |
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Title: Re: Kuzunoha Raidou vs King Abaddon Post by biggsyke on 07/30/08 at 12:48:37 0kami7777 wrote:
Well, it is. Be happy we get more SMT. Also, why King Abbadon? You think because of P4, with the Japanese deity theme, they go with biblical demons? |
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Title: Re: Kuzunoha Raidou vs King Abaddon Post by kakizaki on 07/30/08 at 14:57:37 biggsyke wrote:
Well, it is. Be happy we get more SMT. Also, why King Abbadon? You think because of P4, with the Japanese deity theme, they go with biblical demons?[/quote] So we should just be happy with mediocrity? Sorry, I'm not trying to be difficult, but more SMT isn't necessarily a good thing if the titles keep slipping downslope. |
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Title: Re: Kuzunoha Raidou vs King Abaddon Post by Choooo on 07/30/08 at 15:01:44 Ima let you in on a little secret: The vast majority of the series is mediocre-to-down-right-awful. |
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Title: Re: Kuzunoha Raidou vs King Abaddon Post by biggsyke on 07/30/08 at 15:08:56 Choooo wrote:
Indeed. Now here are more pics! http://videogamerx.gamedonga.co.kr/zbxe/950286 |
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Title: Re: Kuzunoha Raidou vs King Abaddon Post by 0kami7777 on 07/30/08 at 15:33:19 ^ Which games? The only ones I can think of that have been widely and unanimously dissed are: Last Bible, Ronde, maybe the Devil Children, and some nitpickers don't like Persona 3. The thing is the SMT ubrella is so varied that it's hard to classify the different offshoots as being good or not when their gameplay is so drastic from their brethren. |
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Title: Re: Kuzunoha Raidou vs King Abaddon Post by Choooo on 07/30/08 at 15:47:19 0kami7777 wrote:
Majin Tensei as a whole is a terrible series, if... (Atlus began their pattern of making cheap spin-offs very early in their career), the original two on the NES, Devil Children series, Devil Summoner 1 (Sega Saturn), the Last Bible Series, etc, etc. |
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Title: Re: Kuzunoha Raidou vs King Abaddon Post by Alizarin on 07/30/08 at 15:55:23 Choooo wrote:
This is no secret. Rather, its an often denied fact. |
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Title: Re: Kuzunoha Raidou vs King Abaddon Post by kakizaki on 07/30/08 at 16:31:50 Choooo wrote:
Majin Tensei as a whole is a terrible series, if... (Atlus began their pattern of making cheap spin-offs very early in their career), the original two on the NES, Devil Children series, Devil Summoner 1 (Sega Saturn), the Last Bible Series, etc, etc.[/quote] Meh, while I can agree with a lot of the titles you have listed, I like the first DS. |
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Title: Re: Kuzunoha Raidou vs King Abaddon Post by Emilio Morales on 07/30/08 at 23:24:27 Excellent, a new Megaten game, with the work of Kazuma Kaneko and for the PS2, what else can you ask for? Now, let's hope it reach America. |
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Title: Re: Kuzunoha Raidou vs King Abaddon Post by Alizarin on 07/31/08 at 00:19:39 Emilio Morales wrote:
I could ask for it to not suck, but thats like asking for the moon to quit causing the tides. |
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Title: Re: Kuzunoha Raidou vs King Abaddon Post by Raidou11 on 08/01/08 at 18:33:22 Quote:
That means.. There will be no data transfer/convert. On a second thought, there really isn't much to transfer, aside from the compendium which in my case is just lame. |
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Title: Re: Kuzunoha Raidou vs King Abaddon Post by Rebellion on 08/11/08 at 16:44:38 Trailer for the game is up: http://www.gametrailers.com/player/38188.html It's also from the website,which has been updated: http://www.new-moon.tv/ Not much to comment about the trailer,it does seem the gameplay has been improved a little,but this is just an assumption. I can't fully tell what has been changed just from that alone.Hope more clips will be shown later on. |
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Title: Re: Kuzunoha Raidou vs King Abaddon Post by Emilio Morales on 08/11/08 at 16:57:55 Rebellion wrote:
Thanks for the links, Rebellion. Finally we'll get to see some action :D |
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Title: Re: Kuzunoha Raidou vs King Abaddon Post by biggsyke on 08/11/08 at 17:03:08 Nice trailer. Awesome to see some new demons! Astaroth sweet!! |
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Title: Re: Kuzunoha Raidou vs King Abaddon Post by Choooo on 08/11/08 at 18:18:00 The best part of the trailer is that the town parts don't seem to have any enemy encounters (see the blue enemy encounter thing in the corner). |
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Title: Re: Kuzunoha Raidou vs King Abaddon Post by Alizarin on 08/11/08 at 21:22:40 Shame its for the PS2. You'd think if they were gonna do the same gmeplay over and over, they could at least stick it on a new system so that it doesn't look as mediocre as it does. Plus, it would give them incentive to do all the demon models over. I'm tired of seeing the same pixie/jack frost/everything over and over. |
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Title: Re: Kuzunoha Raidou vs King Abaddon Post by MutheSquirrel on 09/05/08 at 09:10:49 There's nothing wrong with Raidou per-say, it just needed a lot of fixing up. I won't attack the game before its even been properly released and no-one really knows that much about it. |
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Title: Re: Kuzunoha Raidou vs King Abaddon Post by neonecron on 09/06/08 at 23:18:21 Very exciting |
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Title: Re: Kuzunoha Raidou vs King Abaddon Post by Alizarin on 09/07/08 at 17:29:53 MutheSquirrel wrote:
Needing a lot of fixing up is a large problem. |
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Title: Re: Kuzunoha Raidou vs King Abaddon Post by citizen zero on 09/11/08 at 10:33:11 and what about voices? will it be voiced? |
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Title: Re: Kuzunoha Raidou vs King Abaddon Post by Emilio Morales on 09/11/08 at 13:06:44 citizen zero wrote:
I hope so, but I don't count in it. :-? |
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Title: Re: Kuzunoha Raidou vs King Abaddon Post by Tallgeese on 09/11/08 at 16:35:10 I'd rather not hear the bitching |
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Title: Re: Kuzunoha Raidou vs King Abaddon Post by MutheSquirrel on 09/12/08 at 18:25:15 Alizarin wrote:
Not really. I mean, all new ideas have to start somewhere. It's like saying N1 should have given up on tactics games after Rhapsody's system sucked so bad on the PS1. The Megaten boys decided to break into an action/RPG hybred system and Raidou Kuzunoha was their first attempt. The system shows promise, but has a long way to go before it's really good. Just because it's not great first try, do you really think that means they should just give up? Tallgeese wrote:
Is there a fan site for any game series where you don't hear a ton of bitching? If there is, can I go there? =P |
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Title: Re: Kuzunoha Raidou vs King Abaddon Post by biggsyke on 09/30/08 at 18:40:58 http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/1218046_1124.html Raidou vs. Hitoshura. Better than Dante? |
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Title: Re: Kuzunoha Raidou vs King Abaddon Post by Azimuth on 10/01/08 at 04:57:50 I just hope that the role of Raidou will be expanded beyond that of Dante. Because I don't even have a idea how to categorize Raidou in the demon compendium. He's human and that mean that you cant fuse him with other demons for stat growth. The way I see it is that the stats of Raidou will be corresponding to the Tsuchigumo he summoned. This would be the most logical explanation and it would go with Devil Summoner cannon as to how the summoner's stats influence the summoned demon |
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Title: Re: Kuzunoha Raidou vs King Abaddon Post by Alizarin on 10/03/08 at 19:11:04 MutheSquirrel wrote:
Not really. I mean, all new ideas have to start somewhere. It's like saying N1 should have given up on tactics games after Rhapsody's system sucked so bad on the PS1. The Megaten boys decided to break into an action/RPG hybred system and Raidou Kuzunoha was their first attempt. The system shows promise, but has a long way to go before it's really good. Just because it's not great first try, do you really think that means they should just give up?[/quote] So, where exactly did I say they should "give up?" Jeez, you make one "shitty game is shitty" post, and you get people going on rants about other stuff. Lack of comprehension for the win. EDIT: Although, given the shit spiral ATLUS is on, maybe they should quit while they're ahead. |
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Title: Re: Kuzunoha Raidou vs King Abaddon Post by SHODAN on 10/04/08 at 22:43:24 You know what I don't understand about Atlus? You'd think after all these years they could make ONE, just ONE good dungeon. (Persona 2 excluded, well at least the ones early on) |
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Title: Re: Kuzunoha Raidou vs King Abaddon Post by bullman422 on 03/09/09 at 13:16:43 I was disappointed with the first Devil summoner but I'm willing to give the sequel a chance. I'm so happy they decided to bring back demon negotiations. I loved that feature so much in Noctourne and in the first two personas (the card shuffle system sucks) and hopefully they will expand on it in the devil summoner sequel. |
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Title: Re: Kuzunoha Raidou vs King Abaddon Post by Alizarin on 03/29/09 at 22:57:33 Demon summoning for the most part is just glorified button mashing. How dare they take the words out of it. Thank god they're putting them back in. I thought I was going to write a blog post. Crisis averted. |
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Title: Re: Kuzunoha Raidou vs King Abaddon Post by biggsyke on 05/19/09 at 23:30:29 So, now that it's out in the U.S. is anyone playing it? I have my copy, but I'm still playing Innocent Sin. Haven't even opened P4 yet. I'm well behind. The Raiho plush is cool, though. |
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Title: Re: Kuzunoha Raidou vs King Abaddon Post by Alizarin on 05/20/09 at 02:42:13 biggsyke wrote:
My copy arrives tomorrow, I think. There are people playing it, but no one will discuss it here. I won't either, probably. This place is dead. I'm surprised Brand bothers with the payments. |
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Title: Re: Kuzunoha Raidou vs King Abaddon Post by biggsyke on 05/20/09 at 13:23:08 Yeah, it's crazy. Megaten is bigger than ever, there's got to be a way to get more customers around here. |
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Title: Re: Kuzunoha Raidou vs King Abaddon Post by Alizarin on 05/21/09 at 02:23:53 biggsyke wrote:
The problem is the place itself I think. That, and the fact that with SMT being mainstream nowadays, you don't have to be at a place like this to talk about it. If you really want posters here, you need people to hate each other. I don't know if you were here for the Michael/Evil Rye dream team but things weren't boring around here with them around. There are probably other people I forgot. Oh wait, yeah, Heat. Heat was great because he basically hated everything and would hate you for liking it. There are probably more people I'm forgetting. Aside from a few being banned because they really were fucktards (and one ban for a naked DDS character,) most of them probably got banned because they were mean and how dare people be mean on the internet you're making Brand frown and now she has to moderate D: Ok, I'm probably wrong saying we need people to hate each other to get activity. This place is not unique. You want to talk about SMT? Atlus' forum probably works, gamefaqs works in theory, and so does talking about it on some other forum you go to with at least one other person knowing what the hell you're on about. Why cpme here to talk about it? This place serves no purpose that isn't filled by 5 other places. Getting people to argue gives people a reason to go some place. They want to prove the other person wrong, and they want to see the newest post by whoever it is their dispute is with. I'm talking a while to get my point across so let me just lay it out here: This place offers nothing special, no one cares. As completely stupid as it sounds, arguments and full on spite is the easiest way to get people to post because it's giving them a reason to. You want more people here? Give them a reason to be. Ok, that post, if it's even coherent, has been written at a time where I'm tired so if it doesn't make sense sorry. |
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Title: Re: Kuzunoha Raidou vs King Abaddon Post by biggsyke on 05/27/09 at 01:34:51 Yeah, you are absolutely right. Way to start an argument, right? Seems like people moved on to other forums, and with no posts around here, it doesn't look like they even check here anymore. We're like an amusement park that needs a new attraction. |
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Title: Re: Kuzunoha Raidou vs King Abaddon Post by granitor on 05/27/09 at 21:40:29 I figure we need to have a bonfire.... |
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Title: Re: Kuzunoha Raidou vs King Abaddon Post by bullman422 on 09/15/09 at 09:27:19 Several years ago while I never was a big poster, I did visit this forum often as it was one of the few places to hang out besides the Atlus forum. But now Atlus seems to have finally gotten their act together (less board crashes forcing you to re-register, better site promotion, active emails, etc.) and its forum is pretty much the place to be. Then of course there are boards like Gamefaqs, 1up, and IGN which pretty much dominate all the others keeping the more casual megaten players form frequenting here which is pretty much why this place is suffering. I guess the best thing you can do is to encourage others to visit here. While it is doubtful this board will ever compete with the big boys, it could get large enough to survive. I hope.. :-? |
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Title: Re: Kuzunoha Raidou vs King Abaddon Post by Alizarin on 09/16/09 at 12:35:46 Probably not. This site serves no real purpose anymore. It was made at a time where the persona games were pretty much it when it came to SMT stuff in america. This was one of the few real internet presences SMT had english wise. Now, SMT is way more popular and this place isn't needed. Lots of alternative places to go, you know? |
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Title: Re: Kuzunoha Raidou vs King Abaddon Post by bullman422 on 10/26/09 at 13:25:33 Alizarin wrote:
You are probably right Alizarin. I guess it is a little too late. Maybe it won't completely die off but I guess it is doubtful it will ever be very active again. :'( |
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Title: Re: Kuzunoha Raidou vs King Abaddon Post by Alizarin on 10/27/09 at 20:46:34 As heat once said, back in 07, this place hasn't been worth going to in four years. I don't know about that 4 year claim, but as of 07, this place was losing it's luster. Now, towards the end of 09, it's clearly dead. |
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