Quote from Sir_Asura on 05/24/08 at 19:33:13:

 
But it's true!
 
Quote from Sir_Asura on 05/24/08 at 19:33:13:

 
And through the world, several fangirls are nodding their heads in agreement and expectation.

Blah, blah, blah.  Yeah, I have to agree that as a gay guy, I find most portrayals of gay men and gay issues to be completely thoughtless.  That's why I think Kanji would make a good fag (or really just a good step in the right direction), because he doesn't actually look like one.  Unfortunately Shodan, I am of the opinion that gays will never really be accepted fully, and that not only is this the fault of bigots everywhere but also homosexuals themselves.  Gay culture and gay representation is almost entirely a reaction to the prejudice and hatred they face; it simply perpetuates and reaffirms their place as an anomaly in society.  There will probably be a fluctuation in what defines gay and what defines the "norm" but all these issues that homosexuals bring into society don't necessarily have to be seen as purely gay ones or even ones that address the vast majority of gays today.  In my opinion, the label will always impose a stigma.  Now that we have a slight distance from legislation that is completely polarized towards a Christian persuasion, and its pretty slight, I think it would be a good idea for gays to redefine themselves and not in a crusading fashion.  Crusades are worthless.  I mean when you think that the story of Ganymede was originally used to advocate pederasty, you can see how far the "norm" can be defined.  I don't think it's too out of line to say that it's normal for two people of the same sex to prefer to be together.  I think it's kind of quaint that the people on this board are about as involved with the issue as all that yaoi trash is concerned, but going to art school, let me tell you, there is nothing in this world more painful than gay art that is trying to transcend it's confused, self-hating, and fundamentally disconnected place in society with a rainbow of passionate pride.  
 
Actually, since this thead has become so "f-ing GAY," I am going to try to employ a blatant move to get back to a broader topic...   If anyone wants to have a typical and completely unproductive forum gay war, then I'm all for doing it in a thread that isn't title Persona 4.  I'd prefer to talk about it outside of here or even in a Kanji specific thread, than push this all-purpose one to the point of oblivion.
 
So here are some questions for the better informed:  
 
We have confirmed that we can control all the characters, I'm assuming that means they can change personae as well.  Does anyone know how easily persona changes can be facilitated?  Are we possibly going to see a return to the system in Persona 2 where each character had a certain affinity with a number of arcana?  
 
Let's speculate on how obnoxious the soundtrack for P4 will be.  While I thought over all P3's fit the mood of the game, it isn't exactly easy listening.  Since this game is supposedly modeled after television, I'm betting the soundtrack is going to sound like soap opera music with a pop twist.  Is there going to be an OST? Etc?  
 
Is there anyone in this community who could reliably translate and relate to us the updates on the official site?
 

Quote from Sir_Asura on 05/25/08 at 02:36:21:

 
There's a japanese speaker, but I haven't seen her post anywhere other than her introduction thread.

... What?

Hahaha, the babelfish of that is amazing.

I go to RISD, so it's just art and design, but it's relatively easy to take classes at Brown or dual-enroll there.
 
It may be good that the randomly generated dungeon aspect seems to be gone, but I am concerned that it may lend a quality of rigidity to how we can level characters/develop teams that wasn't so much an issue in P3.  If the story's great then I'll probably be fine with that, but given that the game is keeping the "one more" system and that all the characters may end up with the same abilities P3's MC had, I bet the game may be extremely easy.  Too much customization in a game that doesn't give you the freedom to develop it could be an inherent flaw.  Since we still have the school calendar, I doubt it's going to be like returning to the same place to grind, etc.  Not that grinded is what games should be about, but a game that eliminates the idea that you work hard to earn rewarding battles kind of sounds lame to me.  
 
The shadow versions of each character appear in (or I guess on?) their personal "channel," which I guess is like a level?  Does anyone know how these things work?  Do you go through each person's personal dilemma's and then exhaust the need to go to their channels, or do we visit these places on specific dates?   How will we "hone our personae" if there isn't a generic place to do it when there isn't a story driven reason to go beat up shadows?

Quote from Choooo on 05/25/08 at 15:53:01:

:ROFL:
the babelfish of THAT is really amazing!!!  
 
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and no, that Onal Police ain`t my virtual or something like that